Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 18:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@conectiva.com.br>
cc: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>, Gigi Duru <giduru@yahoo.com>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The end of embedded Linux?
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Gigi Duru,

You just found your consultant, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo!
Now issue a contract for deliverables on an opensource solution and become
a hero for embedded.

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:

> Em Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 05:23:06PM -0500, Oliver Xymoron escreveu:
> > On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 12:36:50PM -0700, Gigi Duru wrote:
> 
> > > I know you guys are struggling to bring "world class VM & IO" to Linux,
> > > going for SMPs and other big toys, but you are about to lose what you
> > > already have: the embedded market.
>  
> > It's still plenty small enough for many many embedded uses and most people
> > are more than happy with it. The reason that it's not even smaller is no one
> > has stepped forward to do the trimming. It's easy enough to do, but we can
> > only assume from the fact that no one's done so is that it's really not that
> > important.
>  
> > If you think it's important, either make it happen or pay someone else to
> > make it happen. 
> 
> I've been thinking about working on a CONFIG_TINY for ages and would love to
> have somebody else beat me to do this, as currently I'm too busy saving old
> network protocols and with a backlog of patches for general network
> infrastructure (clean up include/linux/skbuff.h so that it doesn't have any
> reference to specific protocols, in the same way that I did for
> include/net/sock.h) and macroising access to stats in tcp/ip so that we can
> be preempt friendly.
> 
> I have also __initstr patches to free more memory after boot by moving the
> strings in __init functions to .data.init section that will help with
> embedded stuff as well. Some of the strings are passed to things like
> register_chrdev and would require changes in those register functions to
> copy the string passed as it will be freed after boot, etc.
> 
> - Arnaldo
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