Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:01:40 -0400
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: RFC: Allow block drivers to poll for I/O instead of sleeping
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 09:15:45AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> Willy, I think the general design is fine, hooking in via the bdi is the
> only way to get back to the right place from where you need to sleep.
> Some thoughts:
> 
> - This should be hooked in via blk-iopoll, both of them should call into
>   the same driver hook for polling completions.

I actually started working on this, then I realised that it's actually
a bad idea.  blk-iopoll's poll function is to poll the single I/O queue
closest to this CPU.  The iowait poll function is to poll all queues
that the I/O for this address_space might complete on.

I'm reluctant to ask drivers to define two poll functions, but I'm even
more reluctant to ask them to define one function with two purposes.

> - It needs to be more intelligent in when you want to poll and when you
>   want regular irq driven IO.

Oh yeah, absolutely.  While the example patch didn't show it, I wouldn't
enable it for all NVMe devices; only ones with sufficiently low latency.
There's also the ability for the driver to look at the number of
outstanding I/Os and return an error (eg -EBUSY) to stop spinning.

> - With the former note, the app either needs to opt in (and hence
>   willingly sacrifice CPU cycles of its scheduling slice) or it needs to
>   be nicer in when it gives up and goes back to irq driven IO.

Yup.  I like the way you framed it.  If the task *wants* to spend its
CPU cycles on polling for I/O instead of giving up the remainder of its
time slice, then it should be able to do that.  After all, it already can;
it can submit an I/O request via AIO, and then call io_getevents in a
tight loop.

So maybe the right way to do this is with a task flag?  If we go that
route, I'd like to further develop this option to allow I/Os to be
designated as "low latency" vs "normal".  Taking a page fault would be
"low latency" for all tasks, not just ones that choose to spin for I/O.
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