Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:54:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:54:04 -0400 Received: from blowme.phunnypharm.org ([65.207.35.140]:39953 "EHLO blowme.phunnypharm.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:54:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:59:38 -0400 From: Ben Collins To: Ingo Molnar Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New BK License Problem? Message-ID: <20021006135938.GI566@phunnypharm.org> References: <20021005112552.A9032@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2171 Lines: 52 On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 03:46:29PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > The clause is specifically designed to target those companies which > > produce or sell commercial SCM systems. [...] The open source developers > > have nothing to worry about. > > and: > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > > Larry, I develop for the Subversion project. Does that mean my license > > > to use bitkeeper is revoked? > > > > Yes. It has been since we shipped that license or when you started > > working on Subversion, whichever came last. > > > this kind of sudden change in Larry's written opinion within 24 hours is > that makes this whole issue dangerous. Fact is that Larry is free to > license his product under fair or unfair terms - it's his. While we > already gave BK/BM tons of feedback, free beta-testing and free publicity, > all we have is this volatile promise that the binary bits of BK are going > to remain licensed - and with every day it will be harder and harder to > move the repository. In all honesty, Larry and I have a dislike for each other. I've emailed him in private venting my frustration against him in the past. I wasn't very nice at all. It's no surprise that he has a grudge against me. His decision above is more of a power play against me to smack me down, than anything else (something he's admitted to me in private email since sending that email to the list). He got his payback. Question is, if he shows a history of using license interpretation to handle personal grudges, how long before he gets pissed at someone else and inteprets his license in another way to toss around power over users of his product...a way more damaging than simply losing ones right to use BK freely. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/