Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752764Ab3FYVOV (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:14:21 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:59567 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752498Ab3FYVOS (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:14:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:14:15 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: Yves-Alexis Perez Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, seth.forshee@canonical.com, joeyli.kernel@gmail.com, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, rjw@sisk.pl, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Message-ID: <20130625211415.GA2899@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1370818899-8595-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com> <1371937599.17761.19.camel@scapa> <20130625160848.GA27123@srcf.ucam.org> <1372193037.8189.24.camel@scapa> <20130625205430.GA2438@srcf.ucam.org> <1372194611.8189.31.camel@scapa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1372194611.8189.31.camel@scapa> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 23 On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:10:11PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On mar., 2013-06-25 at 21:54 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > I agree, we should standardise the behaviour. And the only way we can > > standardise the behaviour is to leave it up to userspace. > > > It's pretty clear we disagree on this and that my opinion won't really > matter here. But letting userspace handle that just means broken > functionality for those who have the chance (apparently) to have an ACPI > backlight interface. Which, as we've already established, you don't - Lenovo broke it. Your Thinkpad claims to have 100 available levels, and most of them don't work. The kernel has no way of knowing which levels work and which don't, so leaving this up to the kernel won't actually fix your system either. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/