Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:45:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:45:08 -0400 Received: from gateway-1237.mvista.com ([12.44.186.158]:17148 "EHLO av.mvista.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:45:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3DA085DA.A775CDC9@mvista.com> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 11:50:02 -0700 From: george anzinger Organization: Monta Vista Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20b i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: "David S. Miller" , giduru@yahoo.com, Andre Hedrick , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: The end of embedded Linux? References: <20021005205238.47023.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> <20021005.212832.102579077.davem@redhat.com> <1033923206.21282.28.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2105 Lines: 57 Alan Cox wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 05:28, David S. Miller wrote: > > Embedded applications tend to have issues which are entirely specific > > to that embedded project. As such, those are things that do not > > belong in a general purpose OS. > > 90% of the embedded Linux problem is not this. Its actually easy to get > most of the embedded needs into the base kernel - in fact they overlap > the other worlds a lot. > > Need low power consumption/resource usage - thats S/390 mainframe > instances and ibm wristwatches. > > Need good cpu control - thats desktop/laptop and embedded > > Need good irq behaviour (pre-empt/low latency) - thats desktop/embedded > > and it carries on like that. > > No the big problem is that each embedded vendor is desperately trying to > keep their changes out of the mainstream so they can screw each other. > In doing so the main people they screw are all their customers. > > So if the embedded people want 2.6 to be good at embedded they need to > get their heads out of their arses and contribute to the mainstream. > Otherwise they'll always be chasing a moving ball, and a ball most > people are kicking the other way down the field. Its a simple fact of > line, if you stick you head up your backside all you get to do is eat > shit > > (and yes there are some embedded people who do contribute but they are > sadly a real minority) Uh, thanks, I think. -g > > Alan > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- George Anzinger george@mvista.com High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/ Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/