Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756239Ab3GCMdl (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:33:41 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:60016 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755924Ab3GCMdk (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:33:40 -0400 Subject: modalias char-major-10-130 From: Jean Delvare To: Wim Van Sebroeck Cc: linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Suse Linux Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:33:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1372854803.22042.22.camel@chaos.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1672 Lines: 45 Hi Wim, All watchdog drivers include: MODULE_ALIAS_MISCDEV(WATCHDOG_MINOR); which causes a modalias char-major-10-130 to be added to every watchdog driver module. As a result, any access to /dev/watchdog on a system with no watchdog driver loaded and working will result in an attempt to load several dozen drivers. At best one or two will actually work, the others will: * Waste time failing to load. * Waste memory succeeding to load but not finding any device to bind to. * Pollute the kernel log. * Sometimes even load while they should not and break the system. I just had a report about advantechwdt doing that on some systems. And the attempt order will presumably be random, so it might as well load softdog before a hardware-based watchdog which would have been preferred. This looks so 90s. Drivers for enumerated devices have hardware-based modaliases, so char-major-10-130 shouldn't be needed. Other drivers should certainly not be loaded randomly if they need to poke the hardware to detect the presence of a supported device. My opinion is that the char-major-10-130 modalias should ONLY be defined by user-space, when the user knows he/she needs a watchdog driver which doesn't support auto-loading via hardware-based auto-loading. So, can we please get rid of all these MODULE_ALIAS_MISCDEV(WATCHDOG_MINOR) statements? They do more harm than good as far as I can see. Thanks, -- Jean Delvare Suse L3 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/