Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:23:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:23:36 -0400 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:39178 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:23:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Daniel Phillips cc: Andrew Morton , "Martin J. Bligh" , Oliver Neukum , Rob Landley , Subject: Re: The reason to call it 3.0 is the desktop (was Re: [OT] 2.6 not 3.0 - (NUMA)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1027 Lines: 29 On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > If that's a bet, I'll take you up on it. Sure. The mey is: - we can more easily fix the f*cking filesystems to be sane - then trying to add prescient read-ahead to the kernel In other words, trying to do an impossibly good job on read-ahead is _stupid_, when the real problem is that ext2 lays out files in total crap ways. > I did say difficult. It really is, but there are big gains to be had. But why do the horribly stupid thing, when Andrew has already shown that a one-liner change to ext2/3 gives you platter speeds (and better speeds than your approach _can_ get, since you still are going to end up seeking a lot, even if you can make your read-ahead prescient). In other words, you're overcompensating. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/