Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753089Ab3GHTCg (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:02:36 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com ([209.85.212.50]:63331 "EHLO mail-vb0-f50.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753064Ab3GHTCd (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:02:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Weaver To: Peter Zijlstra cc: Vince Weaver , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras , Ingo Molnar , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo Subject: Re: perf: more ABI breakage In-Reply-To: <20130708164721.GC22923@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20130708164721.GC22923@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.10 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1269 Lines: 30 On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > Urgh, so the 3.9 patches should never have been merged and sunk in while I was > doing my vegetable imitation. > > Stephane agreed with the change in 3.10; and I suppose he overlooked the fact > that people were already using it :/ I specifically asked if there were already > users as that would indeed require some form of backwards compatibility -- > however annoying. I probably was just hoping no one was using it, and since I don't own any fam15h hardware myself it didn't affect me directly. The problem is that AMD NB support was so long in coming that everyone eagerly jumped on it when it arrived, to the extent of running -rc 3.9 kernels. We can only hope that 3.9 is not chosen as long-term-stable, and that RHEL and the HPC vendors don't decide to backport the 3.9 support to their older kernels. If so we're stuck with it for a while :( It looks like it will be possible for libpfm4/PAPI to sort of paper over this but it's going to be annoying :( Vince -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/