Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756735Ab3GKVWU (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from nm27-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.115.228]:37895 "EHLO nm27-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753790Ab3GKVWQ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:22:16 -0400 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 203993.58156.bm@omp1029.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Co4s1j8HP7xXsvcZxPv+Yjkd941ME4yVjMdoiEBkD3kpLJk83F3KHAAHvsUq1KT0CX00kxiF/GRCAdbbUCxJ7w+HsvrGoZ8uKNLsDq7U89Dcozt19Zurj6+3OOt1bPZn5nKkqLvIDMsOmWct1RvHwYPe2Q7HwOMFD7mAcn3onu8= ; X-YMail-OSG: OsuHeoAVM1kIaHpDmis.rKfs69gbNsQ01.wa0bXJPrpGftJ l39FvC7hdfNVjI4H0oeG68Q9UQ1nJvy79MqqEW1v0Hpxyhlt2PV35eojqhCB Hb54mikJYls2AiDUmlbC3tixWnda98nZ2wJbEricvYBLcyKoEE2X4Zl40y2A pEFEElnsGAB.NTv0FMaRT.CYuTRf4Jp02kuNbgRa.E0byJzh5CfQYNi.1GuB O4pLSbpPG81YtDD3quPsq2WC0mDctQBsWTLK88l8WN7_VLhS3cFJfQTZCASy xFgx0DOObIEEXDaRrgm_NOMeFgZ5quyyeKy44vbKT4oeFRm6AUyQ2aE_Uzs4 4qltY5oTeey_eYfkjxdKJmcnZKxIXrsnT8nMGPovy.2lQnDGKfJp854.vOQR wrUqV1BPJBRqdeQuTeWi5SrMLT4_9ycgt8fcPi2bgwdLaLlhwZmCzQoLFg.N 3eUSGdE5xJGxMQ2jB9NkbYlUWWUHChQ5Suh5IWO.BCrcRxnZdSvdi3LnWENT ylrwKABH_DhqAcRR_jm6lGj5dgl9Zizhk.ALzE1hf9vDHBQlsFwBSxlHVceR JnftRsDvYkQGuCUAxvMLIZg7q9jO7XflJTe_toppJQOvenGv4a1N1CxaxhGr NdPbv X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,PlRoZSBhbnN3ZXIgdG8gImlzIGl0IGRlc2lyYWJsZSB0byBpbXByb3ZlIFg_IiBpcyBhbHdheXMgInllcy4iwqAgQnV0Cgp0aGUgb25seSB3YXkgdG8gbWFrZSBwcm9ncmVzcyBpbiBMaW51eCBpcyB0byBhY3R1YWxseSBwb3N0IHBhdGNoZXMKdGhhdCAiaW1wcm92ZSBYLiLCoCBUaGlzIGlzIHVubGlrZSBtYW55IGNvcnBvcmF0ZSBlbnZpcm9ubWVudHMsIHdoZXJlCnlvdSBtaWdodCBuZWVkIHRvIGdldCBzb21lYm9keSdzIGFwcHJvdmFsCgoKUHJlY2lzZWx5LiBQbGVhc2UgZXhjdXNlIG1lIGNvbWluZyBmcm8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.148.557 References: <1372723921.53875.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130711113822.GA18579@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <1373577734.39761.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:22:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Galeck Reply-To: Mark Galeck Subject: Re: is it desirable to improve the build system? To: Bjorn Helgaas , Pavel Machek Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 698 Lines: 19 >The answer to "is it desirable to improve X?" is always "yes."? But the only way to make progress in Linux is to actually post patches that "improve X."? This is unlike many corporate environments, where you might need to get somebody's approval Precisely. Please excuse me coming from a corporate background.? In corporate, even if you "get somebody's approval", there may be "other stakeholders" who may "feel ownership" etc etc Thank you Mark -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/