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Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> <rant>
>   I'm sitting on top of over 170 more patches that have been marked for
>   the stable releases right now that are not included in this set of
>   releases.  The fact that there are this many patches for stable stuff
>   that are waiting to be merged through the main -rc1 merge window cycle
>   is worrying to me.

Very much agreed.

>   Why are subsystem maintainers holding on to fixes that are
>   _supposedly_ affecting all users?  I mean, 21 powerpc core changes
>   that I don't see until a -rc1 merge?  It's as if developers don't
>   expect people to use a .0 release and are relying on me to get the
>   fixes they have burried in their trees out to users.  That's not that
>   nice.  6 "core" iscsi-target fixes?  That's the sign of either a
>   broken subsystem maintainer, or a lack of understanding what the
>   normal -rc kernel releases are supposed to be for.

This is the kind of stuff I was alluding to on the ksummit-discuss
list.  I was beginning to think we were the only ones noticing so I'm
glad you're speaking up.

>   So, I've picked through the patches and dug out only those that I've
>   "guessed" at being more important than others for the 3.10.1 release.
>   I'll get to the rest of these after 3.11-rc1 is out, and eventually
>   they will make it into the stable releases, but I am going to be much
>   more strict as to what is being added (carriage return changes for
>   debug messages, really ACPI developers?)

That's very much appreciated, Greg.  Thanks.

josh
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