Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965079Ab3GLQgX (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:36:23 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com ([209.85.214.177]:63181 "EHLO mail-ob0-f177.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965004Ab3GLQgV (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:36:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130711214830.611455274@linuxfoundation.org> <20130711222935.GA11340@redhat.com> <20130711224455.GA17222@kroah.com> <20130712141530.GA3629@roeck-us.net> <1373644044.17876.92.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130712161708.GA3759@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:36:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review From: Josh Boyer To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Linus Torvalds , Steven Rostedt , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2173 Lines: 46 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: >> >> * Linus Torvalds wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote: >>> > >>> > I tend to hold things off after -rc4 because you scare me more than Greg >>> > does ;-) >>> >>> Have you guys *seen* Greg? The guy is a freakish giant. He *should* >>> scare you. He might squish you without ever even noticing. >> >> Greg might be a giant and he might squish people without ever even >> noticing, but that's just a grave, deadly physical threat no real kernel >> hacker ever feels threatened by. (Not much can hurt us deep in our dark >> basements after all, except maybe earthquakes, gamma ray eruptions and Mom >> trying to clean up around the computers.) >> >> So Greg, if you want it all to change, create some _real_ threat: be frank >> with contributors and sometimes swear a bit. That will cut your mailqueue >> in half, promise! > > I don't think it's that simple. The problem here isn't that Greg is > being too nice. The problem is that people are holding back fixes > from Linus' tree. Greg might be able to yell at maintainers more, but > if he does it's after the fact and it's sort of a too late situation. > Those fixes should probably get in the tree because they should > probably have been in the .0 release to begin with. I don't envy Greg > here. > > I know... let's push this off onto linux-next. It isn't like Stephen > has anything better to do anyway ;). > > More seriously though, those -stable fixes queued up for months show Er.. probably should have said weeks or "a while" or something, not months. > up there first. Perhaps if we watch the trees feeding into linux-next > for a bit for fixes tagged with -stable in the middle -rc windows, we > can prod maintainers more. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/