Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753215Ab3GORq3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:46:29 -0400 Received: from mail-ve0-f182.google.com ([209.85.128.182]:63080 "EHLO mail-ve0-f182.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752949Ab3GORqS (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:46:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130715172431.GA8034@phenom.dumpdata.com> References: <20130715154050.GA5941@phenom.dumpdata.com> <20130715170244.GA29883@kroah.com> <20130715172431.GA8034@phenom.dumpdata.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:46:17 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: E-0LVJChuTObkdtvibwyMAAVoyc Message-ID: Subject: Re: CONFIG_* used by user-space to figure out whether a feature is on/off From: Linus Torvalds To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Cc: Greg KH , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1101 Lines: 26 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > If life was that simple.. This particular issue was with inhibiting certain > config stanzas if certain features were not built in the kernel. Here is the > bug that started it: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633127 Can somebody please open a grub/xen ticket that says all of this is just too confusing and broken, and that it should just be removed entirely instead of expanded upon? This is a grub bug. It really is that simple. Treat it as one. I don't want to break user space applications, but this isn't a "user-space app". This is "broken kernel support", and when that happens, we call them out for being buggy and don't support them (example: all the gcc bugs that have caused us problems over the years). Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/