Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754842Ab3GOTH7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:07:59 -0400 Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com ([209.85.128.176]:33124 "EHLO mail-ve0-f176.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754431Ab3GOTH5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:07:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> References: <20130715155202.GC29526@xanatos> <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:07:56 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: skBD0WZhg044b0zSFgggOdX89D4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review From: Linus Torvalds To: Sarah Sharp Cc: Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Steven Rostedt , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , Darren Hart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1777 Lines: 42 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > Bullshit. I've seen you be polite, and explain to clueless maintainers > why there's no way you can revert their merge that caused regressions, > and ask them to fit it without resorting to tearing them down > emotionally: Oh, I'll be polite when it's called for. But when people who know better send me crap, I'll curse at them. I suspect you'll notice me cursing *way* more at top developers than random people on the list. I expect more from them, and conversely I'll be a lot more upset when they do something that I really think was not great. For example, my latest cursing explosion was for the x86 maintainers, and it comes from the fact that I *know* they know to do better. The x86 tip pulls have generally been through way more testing than most other pulls I get (not just compiling, but even booting randconfigs etc). So when an x86 pull request comes in that clearly missed that expected level of quality, I go to town. Similarly, you will see fireworks if some long-term maintainer makes excuses for breaking user space etc. That will make me go into incoherent rages. The "polite Linus" example that you point to? That was a maintainer asking for direction for when things went wrong and *before* sending me something dubious. Of course I'm polite then. Sarah, I don't have Tourettes syndrome. You seem to think that my cursing is uncontrolled and random. I argue that it has causes. Big difference. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/