Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757549Ab3GOVVZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:21:25 -0400 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122]:18468 "EHLO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755288Ab3GOVVX (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:21:23 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Du3UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:17 a=Drc5e87SC40A:10 a=pKJnpFkXxSEA:10 a=5SG0PmZfjMsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=meVymXHHAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=H1u3HIS9vXkA:10 a=W1DfZqIjhQdKwywdqKoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=TAHrYieMPH2WeErh:21 a=n6_q-RSoi1XPG-16:21 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 67.255.60.225 Message-ID: <1373923281.17876.208.camel@gandalf.local.home> Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag From: Steven Rostedt To: Joe Perches Cc: Willy Tarreau , James Bottomley , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:21:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1373922593.2062.36.camel@joe-AO722> References: <1373916476.2748.69.camel@dabdike> <1373917517.17876.193.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130715195505.GE10157@1wt.eu> <1373921779.17876.200.camel@gandalf.local.home> <1373922593.2062.36.camel@joe-AO722> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1474 Lines: 41 On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:09 -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 16:56 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > It may not be efficient for maintainers, but as maintainers we should > > spend a bit more time on stable releases. > > The MAINTAINERS file specifies a difference between a > section that's Maintained vs Supported. I never noticed this before. Hmm, Red Hat pays me to work on real-time, but lets me also work on ftrace. I wounder if I should switch that to "Supported", although I push tracing support behind having to do real-time, as that's really my job. > > Do please remember there's a difference between a maintainer > and someone that's paid to support a particular thing. > > My feeling is if you're a maintainer you can just say > "use the current version" and not spend even a moments > effort or thought on backports. If you're doing this as a volunteer, then you have every right to say such a thing. But I have to ask. How many maintainers are really just volunteers? And of those, how many have critical parts of the kernel that distros rely on. If they do, then one would think that a distro would hire them. > > When you're getting paid however, different issues... > Yep. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/