Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758552Ab3GPBCc (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:32 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com ([209.85.220.42]:33030 "EHLO mail-pa0-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758522Ab3GPBC3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review) From: Raymond Jennings To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Steven Rostedt , Sarah Sharp , Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , Darren Hart , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org In-Reply-To: References: <20130715155202.GC29526@xanatos> <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> <20130715195316.GF15531@xanatos> <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> <1373926109.17876.221.camel@gandalf.local.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:02:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1373936545.31535.10.camel@warfang> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2405 Lines: 52 On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 15:38 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > > Can we please make this into a Kernel Summit discussion. I highly doubt > > we would solve anything, but it certainly would be a fun segment to > > watch :-) > > I think we should, because I think it's the kind of thing we really > need at the KS - talking about "process". > > At the same time, I really don't know what the format would possibly > be like for it to really work as a reasonable discussion. And I think > that is important, because this kind of subject is *not* likely > possible in the traditional "people sit around tables and maybe > somebody has a few slides" format. > > A small panel discussion with a few people (fiveish?) that have very > different viewpoints, along with baskets of rotten fruit set out on > the tables? That could be fun. And I'm serious, although we might want > to limit the size of the fruit to smaller berries ;) > > Sarah will bring the brownies. I'm sure slashdot will be happy to follow up, seeing as how this heated discussion just made headlines there. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/07/15/2316219/kernel-dev-tells-linus-torvalds-to-stop-using-abusive-language Personally I *like* when abusive language is used, assuming it's used appropriately. I *hate very much* when people are nice to me and let their frustrations grow, only to ambush me later with a string of curses and lashings in one fell swoop. Not only does "holding it in" set me up for failure becuase I remain ignorant, I also feel downright betrayed when they come off as vindictive bastards that saved their beefs until the moment was ripe to do the most damage. It doesn't just make me lose respect for them, it makes me lose trust. Give me an honest asshole over a silver tongued backstabber any day. > Linus > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/