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Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:01:56 -0700
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On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 11:54 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:50:52 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 09:42 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > Being "polite" without being "nice" is quite possible.
> > > It even has a name:  Diplomacy.
> > 
> > And we all know how circular/indirect/implied/useless
> > some of those diplomatic conversations can be.
> > 
> > Just remember to bring a 'Big Stick' and don't be shy
> > when it's necessary to display it.
> 
> The behaviour you appear to be advocating is what is generally called
> "bullying".

Nope.  It's called not being a pushover and being
direct, clear and not just being unnecessarily forceful.

I also think that depends on "when it's necessary".
That comes after speaking softly, multiple times.

cheers, Joe

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