Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755809Ab3GPClh (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:41:37 -0400 Received: from shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk ([88.96.1.126]:39523 "EHLO shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753349Ab3GPClg (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:41:36 -0400 Message-ID: <1373942486.31067.122.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag From: Ben Hutchings To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Greg KH , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:41:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1373940594.17876.241.camel@gandalf.local.home> References: <1373916476.2748.69.camel@dabdike> <20130715214422.GA2478@kroah.com> <1373925699.17876.218.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130716000623.GB26261@kroah.com> <1373940594.17876.241.camel@gandalf.local.home> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-pX5aQhEDkpmI3F/lbh8R" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.4.101 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ben@decadent.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shadbolt.decadent.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2388 Lines: 60 --=-pX5aQhEDkpmI3F/lbh8R Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 22:09 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: [...]=20 > > > How important is the stable releases? Are maintainers willing to do a > > > little more work now to make sure their subsystems work fine in older > > > kernels? This isn't the same stable as it was 8 years ago. > >=20 > > And that annoys the hell out of some Linux companies who feel that the > > stable kernels compete with them. So people working for those companie= s > > might not get as much help with doing any additional work for stable > > kernel releases (this is not just idle gossip, I've heard it directly > > from management's mouths.) >=20 > Hmm, this is new to me. Really, I thought the whole point of the stable > releases was to help Linux companies. [...] I also heard some managers decided their kernel source packages should have all the patches squashed together to make them harder to cherry- pick... could it have been the same company? Ben. --=20 Ben Hutchings Humans are not rational beings; they are rationalising beings. --=-pX5aQhEDkpmI3F/lbh8R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUAUeSy1ue/yOyVhhEJAQqRag//Yk4A64nhKIzzSNibQ6VKrTKJSZ6nR22y SoIPwkAfulgmPiBdrYZcsorezK+jWiFtCa4bQD3EZCb04pUiughPdGlJI9OHJ0KI RGBNkCu9Ka5g2/ojrrhtcgsrgimLj52mhCcr0ASwknwkcHVS8nQ9e3ktUp8nvgRt AD8m5SGSWB+D+LtyGTJ5mANhZanV8JkPgpqz8RL3Bk4MnqOK6fdhyLk2irW4eBvb anqRZyOucBBksmvYzcQA3DF7Ru51XXQfcVC0XTj4nU/Ca7V2Xv3I4owezpmEf/tH m8pmZ1ZQxarBGH3i7+3fSGG88SA9tb5KT9Dse0Kj1r0kiTXANsg5ceFDp8yvluIO 6XYRWF6VAC7h/34Y10INGvejj9Rea8fjPHpFp5LBwdnGkDns48CFd995W5js1GA4 pV8u9JsoM2KRwOLrWthdEvxxnYvecltlGU+njG6BSL6Qb/rXQSvA7upvk26tUW/x 69K6zR9wm2jV/1I6mICgG6wK40VdmmG48NFbzju5sqt92FkJLO8tNiqZUYjx2v3v imuZoUEctjfG5Nq3PekloK/umjo7gP+1JA5gGjM0BkXuKWPXsCdY/bEdSQrwOoye QJynuQ0MR8t37cJcoER2YWA0rwTJ00pmF98Pe6+RA9OrTXWVDGVcTioaexq2+JCx YTNFKrwMNFM= =gAU+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-pX5aQhEDkpmI3F/lbh8R-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/