Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752771Ab3GPHTu (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:19:50 -0400 Received: from mail.lang.hm ([64.81.33.126]:33664 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752273Ab3GPHTs (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:19:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:19:16 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Willy Tarreau cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: When to push bug fixes to mainline In-Reply-To: <20130712051451.GC25815@1wt.eu> Message-ID: References: <20130711214830.611455274@linuxfoundation.org> <20130712005023.GB31005@thunk.org> <20130712051451.GC25815@1wt.eu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 995 Lines: 23 On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Willy Tarreau wrote: > And maybe in the end, having 1/10 patch cause a regression is not *that* > dramatic, and probably less than not fixing the 9 other bugs. In one case > we rely on -stable to merge the 10 fixes, and on the other case we'd rely > on -stable to just revert one of them. Apologies for the late post, I'm catching up on things, but this jumped out at me. We went through a LOT of pain several years ago when people got into the mindset that a patch was acceptable if it fixed more people than it broke. eliminating that mindset did wonders for kernel stability. Regressions are a lot more of a negative than bugfixes are a positive, a 10:1 ratio of fixes to regressions is _not_ good enough. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/