Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932125Ab3GPJyX (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:54:23 -0400 Received: from cassiel.sirena.org.uk ([80.68.93.111]:46164 "EHLO cassiel.sirena.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754454Ab3GPJyV (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:54:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:53:53 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Ben Hutchings Cc: James Bottomley , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <20130716095353.GC22506@sirena.org.uk> References: <1373916476.2748.69.camel@dabdike> <1373940029.31067.99.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1373940029.31067.99.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> X-Cookie: Many pages make a thick book. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 94.175.92.69 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: broonie@sirena.org.uk Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:57:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on cassiel.sirena.org.uk) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2521 Lines: 60 --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:00:29AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 23:27 +0400, James Bottomley wrote: > > The problem, as Ji=C5=99=C3=AD Kosina put is succinctly is that the dis= tributions > > are finding stable less useful because it contains to much stuff they'd > > classify as not stable material. > Well, some distributions may find that. Some distribution maintainers > have taken on stable branches, officially or otherwise - Steven Rostedt > (MRG), several Ubuntu developers, and myself (Debian), and of course > Greg was working for SUSE not so long ago. There's going to be people using it via the stable kernels from Linaro too soon (mostly underlying distros provided by silicon vendors for embedded systems in the first instance). > ...but this is important. Also, I'm not convinced that the current > standard review period (48 hours starting whenever) is really long > enough. Especially when there can be 4 large series at once (for 3.0, > 3.4, 3.latest-1 and 3.latest) or even more if other stable maintainers > start overlapping reviews. I definitely agree with this, it can be a bit of a DoS when things are busy. --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR5RguAAoJELSic+t+oim9LPoQAI7oyUSJfrWme3BivLl4/rdj rkz9A9g+yqziuFFqpc+Q+I0RvDoxpYIhYThlKwdVb/34BWk+u8rBIQU/IveKJ6rs kkp4bkdDE/dPj5nje+V32Bbaw81SHPqVyg27BE/EgYOYF41EKyQjxNx7ohmJSIJ2 RS3rqf8bH/SCjqY+iJ9dNZuobJAvxNwA2nmeK6XsAMfGto7y9xB558klL9KKFJhH rB6BiZp30bA9ucUZg7jCWI78Je1fAX1GrvMebzct0xt0kaiCpOmvWgW7+4MU4E4d VrgV4NoF01GgmOtuB8QRsVKj+8AECgwSKi7Jd6jePWUVoHJdzZdQOJQK8WKORlKW zM17+Mk5fJynzdmphDJbFjXpMZkw83IUt2eEe4giTUzCEtZWx0agS712oUGtfE4n lH1dDbttFoZrIf/NJ0Z2Gsshyq/quaDITM/2UFG1BjQhnAlnOhbk11SlnnaBzr+5 jXSbYubPSGPhsmTnw7EN86/y7iDgHvzJk0w4YlwoAi0zs9vx8Y+oc2u7IIksBU3P +v017mLte5aRhKOMX9+jBEUSxkVGtjKsuwlmW2KbryTbCrZ7EreN5/TN17ev2wff s8NkY2C01R/JjZDuaiIzqZdVAuf7p62dlNhSyS0P+kxD0vArpLZI3HW5DpeYJGBq zBkO4cWnXbki9INLwquD =NHuC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/