Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932896Ab3GPOpS (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:45:18 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com ([209.85.219.48]:47701 "EHLO mail-oa0-f48.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932827Ab3GPOpL (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:45:11 -0400 Message-ID: <51E55C76.20005@linaro.org> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:45:10 -0500 From: Alex Elder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Sarah Sharp , Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Steven Rostedt , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , Darren Hart Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review References: <20130715155202.GC29526@xanatos> <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1439 Lines: 34 On 07/15/2013 02:07 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > But when people who know better send me crap, I'll curse at them. > > I suspect you'll notice me cursing *way* more at top developers than > random people on the list. I expect more from them, and conversely > I'll be a lot more upset when they do something that I really think > was not great. I have always found this to be the case. Linus has high expectations, and I think the quality of Linux code speaks volumes about the long-term effect of that. Blistering messages from Linus are directed at people who have an established reputation, but who present something less than high-caliber work. Our communication is very open and public though. Those with some experience in the community should know that these strongly-worded messages are not sent indiscriminately. This isn't obvious to a newcomer though. A stranger may not realize that the shouting is among friends who care a lot about what they're doing. If the conversation weren't so public it may not seem as inappropriate. The shaming and flaming style is effective for keeping top people in line. But it does needlessly intimidate new people in the process. -Alex -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/