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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:03:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML
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On 07/16/13 15:54, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> 
> Plus there is a *LOT* of humor and sarcasm in all that. Which just 
> contributes to working on linux kernel being fun. I'd absolutely like to 
> keep that spirit.
> 
> If you guys now start telling others what is allowed and what is forbidden 
> to say, you are going to destroy this completely.

Totally agreed.

And if Jim Z. wants to impose some standards on Linus, good luck with that.

> I don't want to be a part of a community where you have to read a legal 
> code before you can speak without fear of being accused of verbal 
> violence.
> 
> This just doesn't fit into how people of my culture see the world; hence, 
> I may even feel offended by Sarah's proposal (i.e. being very restrictive 
> about what I am allowed to say), actually. I like openness, I like 
> sarcasm, I like fun. Anyone who is trying to forbid this just doesn't fit 
> into my culture.
> 
> So what? He/they believe they achieves their goal through that mode of 
> operation (and very often they indeed do), as so do we, through different 
> means of communication.
> 
> No need to change anything anywhere. Please let everyone express their 
> feelings the way the believe it's best for achieving their goals, and do 
> the same.

Ack.  Thanks for expressing that.


-- 
~Randy
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