Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933867Ab3GPXL5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:11:57 -0400 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122]:32374 "EHLO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933630Ab3GPXLz (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:11:55 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Odoa/2vY c=1 sm=0 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:17 a=Drc5e87SC40A:10 a=BvhdhFe28WsA:10 a=5SG0PmZfjMsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=meVymXHHAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=LhvmM_GddXoA:10 a=iTYV8ourjBvtIbWMZu4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 67.255.60.225 Message-ID: <1374016313.6458.84.camel@gandalf.local.home> Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML From: Steven Rostedt To: Jiri Kosina Cc: Stefano Stabellini , Sarah Sharp , "H. Peter Anvin" , Chris Ball , Darren Hart , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Willy Tarreau Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:11:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> <20130715195316.GF15531@xanatos> <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> <1373926109.17876.221.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130715223615.GI15531@xanatos> <1373932170.28142.24.camel@envy.home> <864nbv9qcm.fsf@void.printf.net> <1373944014.17876.255.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E4BFA9.1030600@zytor.com> <1373991399.6458.6.camel@gandalf.local.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1478 Lines: 35 On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 00:54 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > I am not cursing in my e-mails, you are probably neither. Linus is. Others > are. I've been told several times that I'm one of the nicest on LKML. I like to stick strictly to technical arguments, and will try to help people out when I can. The major difference between myself and Linus, is that I only have to worry about code submissions, and to a much lesser degree than Linus. But not only does Linus have to manage code, he also dictates policy. And I'm not sure you can do that easily with cursing people out here and there. I have kids, and have run classes full of adults, and in both cases I found that I had to yell "WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU" more than once. Adults don't always act adult. Sometimes adults can be worse than kids, as adults have a bit more feeling of power and can become more argumentative. Although, my kids are now in their teenage years, and there's a lot more yelling then there use to be. Point is, I manage code, and don't really need to scold people to get code right. Linus manages code and policy, and to get people to do things correctly, and also to lay down his rule, he needs to whack us from time to time. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/