Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754868Ab3GQOBI (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:01:08 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com ([74.125.82.174]:38555 "EHLO mail-we0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753919Ab3GQOBF (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:01:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> <20130715195316.GF15531@xanatos> <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> <1373926109.17876.221.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130715223615.GI15531@xanatos> <1373932170.28142.24.camel@envy.home> <864nbv9qcm.fsf@void.printf.net> <1373944014.17876.255.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E4BFA9.1030600@zytor.com> <1373991399.6458.6.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E59F79.1040903@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:01:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML From: Felipe Contreras To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , Steven Rostedt , Chris Ball , Darren Hart , Sarah Sharp , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Willy Tarreau Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1827 Lines: 42 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> Linux took off in a way that the other OSS operating systems didn't, and >> several of them had started earlier and with way more funding available. >> >> You really have to think about why we are not running Hurd, or any of >> the various *BSDs, and instead Linus' "not big and professional like >> GNU" hack. In my opinion it was because the Linux community was in fact >> the most open and welcoming of the Open Source communities around. > > Then it's the time to ask ourselves: is it still like this? Yes it is. Linux is the only project I'm aware of where I know my patches will be accepted if they are technically good, despite any personal bullshit, not even Git allows this. The fact that one can be open and honest, and discussion is welcome (as long as it's constructive), in this list is one of the reasons why Linux is so successful. To me, Linux is an oasis among a desert of open source projects where technical merit is not as important as "being nice", and that's why those projects rot and eventually fork, and Linux would not. I know you think "being nice" is better, but do you actually have any evidence for this, or is it just wishful thinking? If you don't have hard evidence, then I'd say you have to admit it's simply your opinion, and I don't think the most successful software project in history should change one if it's core principles simply because *you* think it should. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/