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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:04:39 +0300
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Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML
From: Anca Emanuel <anca.emanuel@gmail.com>
To: Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
        Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
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        Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
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Sarah Sharp: ok, the obvious: there are trolls, and some of them got to you.
They are and will try to make you a troll also. ( the evil come to you
with "good" intentions )

My advice: stick to technical problems.
You are used to start an flamewar.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:01:02AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> I know you think "being nice" is better, but do you actually have any
>> evidence for this, or is it just wishful thinking? If you don't have
>> hard evidence, then I'd say you have to admit it's simply your
>> opinion, and I don't think the most successful software project in
>> history should change one if it's core principles simply because *you*
>> think it should.
>
> I haven't shared any "hard evidence" that civility works better in open
> source projects, because to do so would be to bring gender politics into
> the equation.  I don't want to make this into a gendered issue, but
> since you want hard numbers, I will.
>
> Go look at Dreamwidth, the open source Livejournal fork.  It has a good
> code of conduct, so developers are civil to each other.  They encourage
> all patch submissions, and take the time to work with people who don't
> understand their community rules.
>
> The result: 75% of their developers are women.  If you give a flying
> fuck about diversity, and want to attract women to your open source
> project, your developers need to be civil, and not verbally abuse each
> other.
>
> Sarah Sharp
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