Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934026Ab3GQSYM (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:24:12 -0400 Received: from mga02.intel.com ([134.134.136.20]:50065 "EHLO mga02.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932198Ab3GQSYI convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:24:08 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,686,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="366799227" From: "Luck, Tony" To: Felipe Contreras , Sarah Sharp CC: David Lang , "ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , "Olivier Galibert" , Ingo Molnar , stable , Casey Schaufler , "Linus Torvalds" , Willy Tarreau Subject: RE: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML Thread-Topic: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML Thread-Index: AQHOgolY07hmiG1600ewQhox5c/nnplpY++A///KGfA= Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:24:07 +0000 Message-ID: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F31C8FE9D@ORSMSX106.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> <1373926109.17876.221.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130715223615.GI15531@xanatos> <20130716211235.GG4994@xanatos> <20130716221821.GB21611@1wt.eu> <20130716223957.GJ4994@xanatos> <51E5DB59.2050209@schaufler-ca.com> <20130717010244.GM4994@xanatos> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.22.254.139] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1268 Lines: 26 > Those are just stories; things that happened. What you need to provide > is *evidence* that if the community changes, things will be better, > and unless you have a study of series of collaborative groups like the > Linux kernel, that demonstrates that suppressing swearing has a > positive effect in the community, I'd say all you have is an > *opinion*. 1) There isn't going to be any hard evidence - this isn't a physics problem, or even an engineering problem. It's a social problem. There are no other collaborative groups sufficiently similar to the Linux kernel community, so there are no studies that would be relevant. Asking for the impossible is just a lame delaying tactic. 2) Sarah hasn't even asked to cut down on the swearing - so why mention it at all? Did you even read the thread? So I shall (for comedic effect) indulge in my own (uncharacteristic) bit of name calling and dub thee a troll (and every other bad thing that anyone is ever alleged of calling another on LKML, just to be sure). -Tony -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/