Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756834Ab3GQSnA (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:43:00 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:50529 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756096Ab3GQSm6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:42:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:42:44 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: Felipe Contreras , Steven Rostedt , Sarah Sharp , CAI Qian , David Lang , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Olivier Galibert , stable , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Willy Tarreau , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML Message-ID: <20130717184244.GU4165@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <1374015299.6458.76.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130716231217.GL4994@xanatos> <51E5D7C8.5000306@gmail.com> <1374018809.2249.29.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> <1000066089.1803398.1374046596236.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <20130717144849.GB16513@xanatos> <1374073771.6458.143.camel@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1436 Lines: 33 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:56:16PM +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > Abuse is never justified, I hope that's clear for everybody. Depends on details of your definition of abuse. > So we are down to the definition of verbal abuse. > The Oxford dictionary gives me: > > "speak to (someone) in an insulting and offensive way" Insufficient details to tell if the statement above is correct. Insulting and offensive to *whom*? I have seen people making completely revolting statements about e.g. females in general and get extremely insulted when said statements had been described as sexist, no matter how neutral had description been. I have seen people deeply insulted by being told (in absolutely neutral expressions) that recipe they had offered for some task will not do what they said it would, when the simple experiment (reproduced by a lot of people present) would have clearly demonstrated just that. The same people tend to get _really_ insulted when somebody reports the result of said experiment. And anybody who'd been on the net for a year (hell, a month would suffice) can bring a lot more interesting cases... BTW, is it an abuse to describe somebody as a demagogue? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/