Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757284Ab3GQUS6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:18:58 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.220.41]:54332 "EHLO mail-pa0-f41.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752191Ab3GQUS4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:18:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1374089368.6458.191.camel@gandalf.local.home> References: <20130716211235.GG4994@xanatos> <20130716212704.GB9371@thunk.org> <20130716224357.GK4994@xanatos> <1374015299.6458.76.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130716231217.GL4994@xanatos> <51E5D7C8.5000306@gmail.com> <1374018809.2249.29.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> <1000066089.1803398.1374046596236.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <20130717144849.GB16513@xanatos> <1374073771.6458.143.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130717185138.GC17906@xanatos> <1374089368.6458.191.camel@gandalf.local.home> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:18:55 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QiIgxXjxYOXXH2eG5dZXq7Co7ig Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Sarah Sharp , CAI Qian , David Lang , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Olivier Galibert , stable , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Willy Tarreau , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1476 Lines: 35 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote: > I've said it several times in this thread. I think the tone of LKML has > been getting more tame, and it's not your father's mailing list > anymore. ;-) Indeed. Several (definitely more than 5) years ago, there was a presentation (IIRC even a keynote) at OLS about the hostility of lkml to newcomers. Bad and good examples were shown. Several attendees couldn't believe who wrote one of the good examples, as its author was used to be known for his very harsh emails several years before ;-) And in the mean time, things have improved even more! Side note: lots of this use of words is cultural. When I first visited the USA, I was surprised to never hear anyone use four letter words, unlike in movies exported from the USA. While these English words had become common in Europe (at least in Belgium)... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/