Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756777Ab3GQWYV (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:24:21 -0400 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:10478 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755796Ab3GQWYT (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:24:19 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,687,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="372095722" Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:24:18 -0700 From: Sarah Sharp To: Al Viro Cc: Stefano Stabellini , Felipe Contreras , Steven Rostedt , CAI Qian , David Lang , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Olivier Galibert , stable , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Willy Tarreau , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML Message-ID: <20130717222418.GG17906@xanatos> References: <20130716231217.GL4994@xanatos> <51E5D7C8.5000306@gmail.com> <1374018809.2249.29.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> <1000066089.1803398.1374046596236.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <20130717144849.GB16513@xanatos> <1374073771.6458.143.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130717184244.GU4165@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130717184244.GU4165@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1148 Lines: 32 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:42:44PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:56:16PM +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > Abuse is never justified, I hope that's clear for everybody. > > Depends on details of your definition of abuse. > > > So we are down to the definition of verbal abuse. > > The Oxford dictionary gives me: > > > > "speak to (someone) in an insulting and offensive way" > > Insufficient details to tell if the statement above is correct. > Insulting and offensive to *whom*? It's not helpful to look at a dictionary definition of verbal abuse, because it's much too short. Here's a much longer description of verbally abusive behaviors: http://outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/VerbalAbuse.html Key ones that apply to LKML communications: belittlement, demeaning statements, hysteria, name-calling, raging and violent statements, and mocking sarcasm. Sarah Sharp -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/