Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932377Ab3GRCBi (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:01:38 -0400 Received: from gate.crashing.org ([63.228.1.57]:45594 "EHLO gate.crashing.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752606Ab3GRCBg (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:01:36 -0400 Message-ID: <1374112865.19894.493.camel@pasglop> Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review) From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: James Bottomley Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stable , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:01:05 +1000 In-Reply-To: <1374041689.2036.14.camel@dabdike.svoaero.ru> References: <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> <20130715195316.GF15531@xanatos> <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> <1373926109.17876.221.camel@gandalf.local.home> <1373999229.2148.87.camel@dabdike> <20130716211830.GX16780@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1374041689.2036.14.camel@dabdike.svoaero.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4-0ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1371 Lines: 33 On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 10:14 +0400, James Bottomley wrote: > > OK, I am stupid enough to take a stab at this... > > > > 1. Does the Linux kernel community's health depend on the occasional > > rant? [My guess is that we simply have no way of knowing. > > That said, I would be interested in hearing specific examples > > of open-source communities that are as doing as well as is the > > Linux community and that live within stricter social mores. > > Cue arguments about exactly what "doing well" means...] My little personal opinion (that nobody probably cares about :-) is that the occasional Linus rant is a good thing. It keeps people like me in check :-) More seriously, the rant when I screw up is generally deserved, and the "idea" of the possible rant (I prefer not using threat) is actually a strong motivator to get things right. Ie. It's a *very good* barrier against maintainers sliding into sloppyness. Really, it works. At least with me. It's easy to take things a bit too much for granted, especially when you maintain your own little corner of the world. Cheers, Ben. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/