Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:39:07 +0200
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
        Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
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Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
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* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp
> <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, FFS, I just called out on private email for "playing the victim
> > card".  I will repeat: this is not just about me, or other minorities.
> > I should not have to ask for professional behavior on the mailing lists.
> > Professional behavior should be the default.
> 

> [...]
> 
> Because if you want me to "act professional", I can tell you that I'm 
> not interested. I'm sitting in my home office wearign a bathrobe. The 
> same way I'm not going to start wearing ties, I'm *also* not going to 
> buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and 
> backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because 
> THAT is what "acting professionally" results in: people resort to all 
> kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their 
> normal urges in unnatural ways.

Sarah, that's a pretty potent argument by Linus, that "acting 
professionally" risks replacing a raw but honest culture with a
polished but dishonest culture - which is harmful to developing
good technology.

That's a valid concern. What's your reply to that argument?

Thanks,

	Ingo
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