Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755660Ab3GUPGf (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:06:35 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com ([209.85.223.171]:61643 "EHLO mail-ie0-f171.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755630Ab3GUPGd convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:06:33 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 23:15:51 -0500 From: Rob Landley Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review To: Joe Perches Cc: NeilBrown , Steven Rostedt , "J. Bruce Fields" , Linus Torvalds , Sarah Sharp , Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , Darren Hart References: <20130715155202.GC29526@xanatos> <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715190505.GA3336@fieldses.org> <1373915984.17876.176.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130716094241.43dbabb0@notabene.brown> <1373932252.2062.55.camel@joe-AO722> <20130716115405.0d5a7da6@notabene.brown> <1373940116.2062.59.camel@joe-AO722> In-Reply-To: <1373940116.2062.59.camel@joe-AO722> (from joe@perches.com on Mon Jul 15 21:01:56 2013) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.11 Message-Id: <1374380151.3719.26@driftwood> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1238 Lines: 33 On 07/15/2013 09:01:56 PM, Joe Perches wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 11:54 +1000, NeilBrown wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:50:52 -0700 Joe Perches > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 09:42 +1000, NeilBrown wrote: > > > > Being "polite" without being "nice" is quite possible. > > > > It even has a name: Diplomacy. > > > > > > And we all know how circular/indirect/implied/useless > > > some of those diplomatic conversations can be. > > > > > > Just remember to bring a 'Big Stick' and don't be shy > > > when it's necessary to display it. > > > > The behaviour you appear to be advocating is what is generally > called > > "bullying". > > Nope. It's called not being a pushover and being > direct, clear and not just being unnecessarily forceful. Linux-kernel is an _epicially_ self-selected group. I expect the vast majority of people would be on Neil's side of this argument, not Joe's. But they've already walked away, and are not coming back. Rob-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/