Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:25:17 +1000
From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: Linux 3.11-rc2
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:53:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So it's been another week, and -rc2 is out there.
> 
> The patch looks a bit odd, because by bulk 95% of the patch is just
> the removal of the CSR staging driver that wasn't getting any
> traction, so the diffstat (and the dirstat in particular) is not very
> interesting or readable, since that driver removal basically
> overshadows everything else. But I do admit to love seeing code
> removal patches.
> 
> And of the rest of the patch, a noticeable part is all those
> one-liners all over that just remove the __cpuinit markers that people
> agreed were just more pain than gain to maintain. We had already made
> the markers be no-ops earlier, so they didn't matter for code
> generation, and here in rc2 they get actually removed.
> 
> End result: we have two separate events that generate a lot of noise
> in the patch, but aren't really interesting per se. They do make the
> patch harder to read, though.
> 
> Ignoring those noisy parts of the patch, there's a couple of things
> worth noting about rc2. I think most of the patches here are nice
> fixes, but I wanted to give two heads-ups:
> 
>  (a) the O_TMPFILE flag that is new to 3.11 has been going through a
> few ABI/API cleanups (and a few fixes to the implementation too), but
> I think we're done now. So if you're interested in the concept of
> unnamed temporary files, go ahead and test it out. The lack of name
> not only gets rid of races/complications with filename generation, it
> can make the whole thing more efficient since you don't have the
> directory operations that can cause serializing IO etc.

I'll just point out that it can make the whole thing worse, too.
For example, for ext3/4, the tmpfile being created has to be added
to the orphan inode list which is protected by a filesystem global
mutex. Hence scalability of O_TMPFILE is massively limited on
ext3/ext4 due to architectural issues within ext3/4. Other
filesystems will be more efficient, but because they have more
scalable/complex orphan inode handling it's going to take longer to
implement O_TMPFILE support for them....

Cheers,

Dave.
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Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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