Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758239Ab3GXAr7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:47:59 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]:42811 "EHLO mail-wg0-f53.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758194Ab3GXAr5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:47:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130724003439.GE31864@blackmetal.musicnaut.iki.fi> References: <20130723225715.GD31864@blackmetal.musicnaut.iki.fi> <1374621001.3031.1@driftwood> <20130724003439.GE31864@blackmetal.musicnaut.iki.fi> From: Paul Gortmaker Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:47:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nuSkZI74tTVcinh-t76c2cor9kI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation/Changes: phase out Changes file that hasn't changed To: Aaro Koskinen Cc: Rob Landley , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1772 Lines: 44 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:10:01PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: >> On 07/23/2013 05:57:15 PM, Aaro Koskinen wrote: >> >Is there any file describing the needed tools (and minimum versions) to >> >_build_ the kernel? I agree that trying to describe such for the run-time >> >userspace does not belong to the kernel tree, but the required/supported >> >versions of build tools should be still maybe documented... >> >> Documentation/changes _is_ the file that describes the kernel's >> build-time prerequisites. > > So, in that case the file should not be deleted. Or, we could create a real required-packages.txt that isn't a decade out of date (and poorly named), and have that in turn reference the arch specific files with the arch specific data. C'mon folks, have an open mind here. Put yourself in the perspective of the new user, and the issues that he/she faces. Try and forget the knowledge that you implicitly have gained of linux over time. Pointing these new users at this ancient Changes file is a good way to simply drive them away. We can do better. I know we can. And I know we all want that exact same thing once we cut away all the BS. Thanks, Paul. --- > > A. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/