Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:44:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:44:24 -0400 Received: from adedition.com ([216.209.85.42]:13063 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:44:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:50:00 -0400 From: Mark Mielke To: Larry McVoy , "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Message-ID: <20021010035000.GD8805@mark.mielke.cc> References: <20021005112552.A9032@work.bitmover.com> <20021007001137.A6352@elf.ucw.cz> <5.1.0.14.2.20021007204830.00b8b460@pop.gmx.net> <20021007143134.V14596@work.bitmover.com> <20021009165500.L27050@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021009165500.L27050@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1845 Lines: 40 On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:55:00PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > And none of that includes the hardware costs, which are dramatically > cheaper for BK, it works on a laptop. Clearcase doesn't. ClearCase does work on lap tops. Even if you mean disconnected, ClearCase allows work to continue with snapshot views... :-) Hardware costs are nothing really. The true killer with ClearCase is the support costs. Not only do you need several full time people to deal with user problems, you need several full time people to customize your solution such that it meets your needs, several full time people to baby the servers, and a whole management structure on top to ensure that the full time people talk to each other, and the actual users. $3000/head really is nothing to large companies. CVS developers don't understand, but for companies with several hundred designers, using CVS would end up costing a heckuvalot more. I have become so accustomed to features that are available in higher level systems such as ClearCase that I find it difficult to use CVS. It is the difference between black and white and colour. mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/