Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:51:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:51:04 -0400 Received: from adedition.com ([216.209.85.42]:37127 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:51:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:56:44 -0400 From: Mark Mielke To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Message-ID: <20021010045644.GA9652@mark.mielke.cc> References: <20021005112552.A9032@work.bitmover.com> <20021007001137.A6352@elf.ucw.cz> <5.1.0.14.2.20021007204830.00b8b460@pop.gmx.net> <20021007143134.V14596@work.bitmover.com> <20021009165500.L27050@work.bitmover.com> <20021010035000.GD8805@mark.mielke.cc> <20021010041647.GO2753@pizzashack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010041647.GO2753@pizzashack.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1769 Lines: 37 On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:16:48AM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote: > At some point hitherto, Mark Mielke hath spake thusly: > > Hardware costs are nothing really. The true killer with ClearCase is > > the support costs. Not only do you need several full time people to > > deal with user problems, you need several full time people to > > customize your solution such that it meets your needs, several full > > time people to baby the servers, and a whole management structure on > > top to ensure that the full time people talk to each other, and the > > actual users. > I'd have to disagree... though it probably depends on your environment > a great deal, and possibly how braindead your development team and/or > your sysadmin team is. At a previous job, I was one of two system > administrators that supported ClearCase in our Solaris environment for > about 100 engineers. That is, there were two of us, and I never > ... I may be talking about a company with 5000+ designers using ClearCase with many sites around the world... :-) mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/