Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:44:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:44:56 -0400 Received: from netrealtor.ca ([216.209.85.42]:39689 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:44:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:50:43 -0400 From: Mark Mielke To: Helge Hafting Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] O_STREAMING - flag for optimal streaming I/O Message-ID: <20021010175043.GA16962@mark.mielke.cc> References: <1034104637.29468.1483.camel@phantasy> <20021009170517.GA5608@mark.mielke.cc> <3DA4852B.7CC89C09@denise.shiny.it> <20021009222438.GD5608@mark.mielke.cc> <20021009232002.GC2654@bjl1.asuk.net> <20021010030736.GA8805@mark.mielke.cc> <3DA55C8C.760584EE@aitel.hist.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA55C8C.760584EE@aitel.hist.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1962 Lines: 43 On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:55:08PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Mark Mielke wrote: > > I might be wrong, but it seems to me that O_STREAMING isn't the answer > > to everything. The primary benefactors of O_STREAMING would be > > applications that read very large files that do not fit into RAM, from > > start to finish. > It don't have to be a file that don't fit into RAM. Remember, other > running apps wants memory and cache too, so the "fair share" of memory > for _this_ process is much smaller than all of RAM. > So, O_STREAMING makes sense for all files where we know that we're going > sequentially and that caching this for long won't help. > (Because the contents likely will be pushed out before we need > them again anyway (DVD case) or we know were going to delete > the file, or we simply don't want to push anything else > out even if we could cache this.) Then perhaps O_STREAMING should be called O_EXTENDEDSTREAMING. If you overload O_STREAMING to contain all possibile uses for sequential reads, you end up hurting yourself. Small files are different beasts from large files. If you want O_STREAMING to work in all cases, you really want standard mode to work in all cases, and O_STREAMING is not for you. mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/