Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758813Ab3GZOQx (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:16:53 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:40206 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755507Ab3GZOQs (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:16:48 -0400 Message-ID: <1374848199.14574.103.camel@i7.infradead.org> Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] DT bindings as ABI [was: Do we have people interested in device tree janitoring / cleanup?] From: David Woodhouse To: "jonsmirl@gmail.com" Cc: Jason Cooper , Mark Rutland , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Russell King - ARM Linux , Ian Campbell , Pawel Moll , Stephen Warren , Richard Cochran , Domenico Andreoli , "rob.herring@calxeda.com" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Jason Gunthorpe , Dave P Martin , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:16:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20130725175702.GC22291@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <51F168FC.9070906@wwwdotorg.org> <20130725182920.GA24955@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20130725184834.GA8296@netboy> <20130725213753.GC17616@obsidianresearch.com> <20130726080115.GA5436@netboy> <1374831744.2923.42.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20130726130927.GC4219@netboy> <20130726132709.GH29916@titan.lakedaemon.net> <1374846070.14574.92.camel@i7.infradead.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-1"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-+mpfiJHae+V+PvD1Tugz" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.3 (3.8.3-2.fc19) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by merlin.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 9260 Lines: 141 --=-+mpfiJHae+V+PvD1Tugz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 10:14 -0400, jonsmirl@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > Yes, yes - that's why the schema should be written down and used as a > validation input to dtc. Then dtc can spit out errors for non-standard > items. There would be two versions - the standard one and a legacy one > that includes the standard one plus the hacks that can't be undone. >=20 > But more importantly it provides a framework for people creating new > node definitions. Now they can't work in a vacuum and come up with > random names and structure for everything. >=20 > Most of the problems express in the thread would go away if the schema > was written down and discussed. The rule going forward would be no new > nodes that aren't part of the standard schema. Yes, that seems eminently sensible. --=20 David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation --=-+mpfiJHae+V+PvD1Tugz Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIISxDCCBjQw ggQcoAMCAQICAR4wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwfTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0 Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNpZ25pbmcxKTAn BgNVBAMTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTA3MTAyNDIxMDE1NVoX DTE3MTAyNDIxMDE1NVowgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSsw KQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFy dENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRlIENsaWVudCBDQTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAMcJg8zOLdgasSmkLhOrlr6KMoOMpohBllVHrdRvEg/q6r8jR+EK 75xCGhR8ToREoqe7zM9/UnC6TS2y9UKTpT1v7RSMzR0t6ndl0TWBuUr/UXBhPk+Kmy7bI4yW4urC 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