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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 18:21:42 +0200
From: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>
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To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
CC: Douglas Gilbert <dgilbert@interlog.com>,
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Subject: Re: [SCSI REGRESSION] 3.10.2 or 3.10.3: arcmsr failure at bootup
 / early userspace transition
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On 08/01/2013 06:04 PM, Nix wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2013, Bernd Schubert verbalised:
>
>> On 07/30/2013 11:20 PM, Nix wrote:
>>> On 30 Jul 2013, Bernd Schubert told this:
>>>
>>>> On 07/30/2013 02:56 AM, Nix wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Jul 2013, Douglas Gilbert outgrape:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please supply the information that Martin Petersen asked
>>>>>> for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did it in private IRC (the advantage of working for the same division of
>>>>> the same company!)
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't realise the original fix was actually implemented to allow
>>>>> Bernd, with a different Areca controller, to boot... obviously, in that
>>>>> situation, reversion is wrong, since that would just replace one won't-
>>>>> boot situation with another.
>>>>
>>>> Unless there is very simple fix the commit should reverted, imho. It
>>>> would better then to remove write-same support from the md-layer.
>>>
>>> I'm not using md on that machine, just LVM. Our suspicion is that ext4
>>> is doing a WRITE SAME for some reason.
>>
>> I didn't check yet for other cases, mkfs.ext4 does WRITE SAME and with
>> lazy init it also will happen after mounting the file system, while
>> lazy init is running (inode zeroing).
>
> Well, it'll happen the first few times you mount the fs. If your fs is
> years old (as mine are) the inode tables will probably have been
> initialized by now!
>

I'm frequently doing tests with millions of files and reformating is 
ways faster than deleting the all these files.
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