Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752199Ab3HBNYi (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Aug 2013 09:24:38 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.218]:39916 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751407Ab3HBNYh (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Aug 2013 09:24:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:24:19 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux To: Tony Lindgren Cc: Greg KH , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] [ARM ATTEND] kernel data bloat and how to avoid it Message-ID: <20130802132419.GO23006@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20130731073802.GT7656@atomide.com> <20130731123351.GA30474@kroah.com> <20130802075352.GY7656@atomide.com> <20130802124130.GI7656@atomide.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130802124130.GI7656@atomide.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1736 Lines: 33 On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:41:31AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote: > Oh and thinking about it a bit more, this issue is mostly with the > device drivers implementing frameworks, not the device drivers > using the frameworks. Things like clocks, regulators, muxes etc where > an almost similar instance is repeated tens or hundreds of times for > each SoC. That is where it helps to have a strong maintainer for a subsystem who has the guts to refuse to accept stuff which is similar to existing implementations and insist that existing implementations are either adapted or reused. It's all very well someone coming along and writing a "generic" set of implementations (like tglx did for the IRQ subsystem) but unless there's a motivation for people to use the generic stuff (such as... you won't get your code in if you don't use the provided generics unless you can provide a very good reasoned argument) then people are just going to write their own code time and time again. It's just like how the clocksources have gone. We now have multiple implementations of how to read a counter which ticks at a specific rate. You wouldn't think that I wrote drivers/clocksource/mmio.c which can handle all of these simple 32-bit/16-bit up/down counter cases. Again, the problem is there is no strong reviewer there who looks over every addition and says "no, use the generic stuff". That's the basic problem here: the review, and people saying "no" to new stuff doing the same as generic stuff. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/