Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754055Ab3HPRDc (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:03:32 -0400 Received: from mga02.intel.com ([134.134.136.20]:27186 "EHLO mga02.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753344Ab3HPRD2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:03:28 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,895,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="363758153" Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Enable Drivers for Intel MIC X100 Coprocessors. From: Sudeep Dutt To: Pavel Machek Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Arnd Bergmann , Rusty Russell , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Nikhil Rao , Ashutosh Dixit , Caz Yokoyama , Dasaratharaman Chandramouli , Harshavardhan R Kharche , "Yaozu (Eddie) Dong" , Peter P Waskiewicz Jr , Sudeep Dutt In-Reply-To: <20130815101455.GA25528@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> References: <20130813124311.GA18426@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> <1376511850.113256.29.camel@blbiskey-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com> <20130815101455.GA25528@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:59:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1376672369.93110.13.camel@blbiskey-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-30.el6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4537 Lines: 102 On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:14 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > Hi! > > > > Since it is a PCIe card, it does not have the ability to host hardware > > > > devices for networking, storage and console. We provide these devices > > > > on X100 coprocessors thus enabling a self-bootable equivalent environment > > > > for applications. A key benefit of our solution is that it leverages > > > > the standard virtio framework for network, disk and console devices, > > > > though in our case the virtio framework is used across a PCIe bus. > > > > > > Interesting... > > > > > > > Documentation/mic/mic_overview.txt | 48 + > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/.gitignore | 1 + > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/Makefile | 20 + > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/micctrl | 157 +++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpss | 246 +++++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.c | 1732 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.h | 105 +++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/sysfs.c | 108 +++ > > > > drivers/misc/Kconfig | 1 + > > > > drivers/misc/Makefile | 1 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/Kconfig | 56 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/Makefile | 6 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/Makefile | 11 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_common.h | 43 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.c | 139 +++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.h | 40 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.c | 311 ++++++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.h | 106 +++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.c | 643 +++++++++++++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.h | 79 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.c | 253 +++++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.h | 53 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/common/mic_device.h | 85 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/host/Makefile | 13 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/host/mic_boot.c | 181 ++++ > > > > > > So... there are basically separate computers running on PCIe card > > > plugged into host computer, right? > > > > > > > They are PCIe form factor Coprocessors plugged into the host. > > > > > Maybe we should have something more promintent than drivers/misc for > > > this, then? Like drivers/multicomputer? > > > > > > > multicomputer" is an interesting name for these kind of devices but has > > several issues: > > a) The definition I found for multicomputer online was "A computer made > > up of several computers. The term generally refers to an architecture in > > which each processor has its own memory rather than multiple processors > > with a shared memory. A multicore computer, although it sounds similar, > > would not be a multicomputer because the multiple cores share a common > > memory." Intel MIC X100 devices typically have upto 244 CPUs (61 cores) > > on the card sharing common card memory so multicomputer would not be > > accurate based on this definition. > > Well... you have your "host" computer, and than (potentially several) > Intel MIC devices, which are basically separate computers. So X100 is > not a multicomputer, but machine with several X100 cards certainly is > multicomputer. > > > b) X100 MIC devices have always been referred to Coprocessors and never > > as multicomputers in product specifications @ > > http://software.intel.com/en-us/mic-developer > > Coprocessor sounds like i487, but why not. > > > c) multicomputer is a very long path name. > > Agreed it is long. drivers/coproc? > > [I guess we'll get similar hardware from different vendors in > future. It would make sense having it at common place.] > drivers/coproc is a good, short suggestion. Intel MIC X100 devices are likely unique since they can run a general purpose OS in a PCIe form factor Coprocessor plugged to the host. This might result in MIC potentially being the only driver under drivers/coproc till another general purpose Coprocessor comes along. Is it recommended to create a new driver directory (drivers/coproc) in anticipation of future devices? Do you think it would be better if we revive this discussion, once another Coprocessor with similar capabilities comes along? Thanks, Sudeep Dutt > Pavel > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/