Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751283Ab3HSUjy (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:39:54 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:53538 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750827Ab3HSUjx (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:39:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:39:37 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: David Woodhouse Cc: James Bottomley , "John W. Linville" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans Message-ID: <20130819203937.GA28967@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1376900735.2322.26.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20130819125507.GA19093@srcf.ucam.org> <1376925765.2069.24.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130819160018.GA22532@srcf.ucam.org> <1376931775.2069.46.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130819172139.GA24393@srcf.ucam.org> <1376933926.2069.52.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <1376942994.2322.39.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20130819201952.GA28740@srcf.ucam.org> <1376943671.2322.40.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1376943671.2322.40.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 996 Lines: 23 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 09:21:11PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 21:19 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > > We have no way to guarantee that. Most board vendors don't turn up to > > the plugfests and aren't going to run anything we ship. > > Oh well, let's just wring our hands and not bother to turn up to the > plugfest at all then. No point trying to *improve* the situation, after > all. The plugfests have, from our perspective, always been useful in identifying new implementation interpretations before hardware ships. But even then, it's usually too late to modify the firmware. Vendors who care about Linux compatibility have already tested Linux before we turn up. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/