Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751995Ab3HUFYr (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:24:47 -0400 Received: from 1wt.eu ([62.212.114.60]:35454 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751899Ab3HUFYq (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:24:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:24:24 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Greg KH Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , stable , lwn@lwn.net, Guenter Roeck , Hugh Dickins , Johannes Berg , Borislav Petkov , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Proposed stable release changes Message-ID: <20130821052424.GE16424@1wt.eu> References: <20130820224032.GA20491@kroah.com> <20130820225815.GD16424@1wt.eu> <20130820231232.GB703@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130820231232.GB703@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2206 Lines: 47 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:12:32PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:58:15AM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:40:32PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Given that I had to just revert a patch in the recent stable releases > > > that didn't get enough time to "bake" in Linus's tree (or in -next), I > > > figured it was worth discussing some possible changes with how "fast" I > > > pick up patches for stable releases. > > > > > > So, how about this proposal: > > > > > > - I will wait for a -rc to come out with the patch in it before putting > > > it into a stable release, unless: > > > - the maintainer ACKs it, or sends it directly (like DaveM does > > > for networking patches) > > > - I have seen enough discussion about a patch to show that it > > > really does fix something / is good / doesn't cause problems. > > > - obviously safe, i.e. "add a device id" type thing. > > > > > > Given that we have -rc releases every week, except for the initial -rc1 > > > release, I don't think this will really cause any major delays. > > > > In the last discussion you initiated on the subject, I proposed something > > even more conservative which was the same as above except instead of > > "wait for a -rc", it was "wait for rc1 after a full release containing > > the patch", unless one of the conditions you proposed, or another one > > which would be a tag "urgent" or something like this in the patch. > > Waiting 3 months is too long, in my opinion, sorry. I meant only for the non-important ones. Their authors will qualify the ones that are important and must not wait. The same way as now many patches are correctly tagged "cc: stable", I suspect that we could end up with maybe 80% of patches tagged as "must not wait", and the remaining 20% would indeed wait up to 3 months, but if their authors think they should wait maybe we should trust them. Willy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/