Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752148Ab3HUFiy (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:38:54 -0400 Received: from 1wt.eu ([62.212.114.60]:35463 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751931Ab3HUFix (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:38:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:38:36 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Greg KH Cc: Josh Boyer , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , stable , lwn@lwn.net, Guenter Roeck , Hugh Dickins , Johannes Berg , Borislav Petkov , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Proposed stable release changes Message-ID: <20130821053836.GF16424@1wt.eu> References: <20130820224032.GA20491@kroah.com> <20130820235700.GA7209@kroah.com> <20130821004924.GA19098@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130821004924.GA19098@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1699 Lines: 39 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:49:24PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:41:23PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > >> I like this overall. The only thing I might change is "wait for -rc2" > > >> for patches tagged with CC: stable that go in during the merge window. > > >> It seems those are the ones that tend to bite us. > > > > > > Maintainers can always tag their patches to have me hold off until -rc2 > > > for that. > > > > They can (not immediately sure how though?) > > Some do: > Cc: stable # after -rc5 is out > or > Cc: stable # wait a -rc cycle > or > Cc: stable # wait a few weeks to bake That's where I think that the default one (with no indication) should be the higher delay. If the author has no clue about the emergency of his patch, who else can guess for him ? It's too optimistic to consider that some code authors will be realist about the impacts of their code. We all create bugs and regressions everywhere because we're sure about what we do, until someone says "hey dude you broke this". So if we expect authors to say "look, I managed to get this merged into mainline but I'm still not sure about the risks", I suspect only a small fraction of the patches will be tagged this way. But I may be wrong, after all it already works well with -net. Willy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/