Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:13:02 +0200
From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
        ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ATTEND] oops.kernel.org prospect
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On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> abrt used to have a free-form entry like this. What happened is users
> have no idea what to type in there, so you end up with bugs containing
> things like "don't know" or worse, some crazy moon language you can't
> even read.

Prepend the entry with an informative question maybe:

"Enter bug reproduction information here:"

> Two things worth noting here, are 1) the original kerneloops also
> didn't collect anything like this, and was still very useful, and
> 2) for the more common issues (which let's face it, are going to be
> the only things people really look at) chances are pretty high that
> there's going to be someone also reporting it on lkml, or in a distro
> bug tracker.

Ok.

> What might be useful however, is collecting things like
> dmi/lspci/lsusb etc and _asking_ the user if they're ok with including
> them at time of filing. We might scare off some of the more paranoid
> OMGMYSECRETDATAS users, but chances are high most people won't care.
> This requires the client to have a UI though, which aiui, it currently
> doesn't. Anton?

Definitely a step in the right direction.

> We might also ask if they want to provide an email address for
> feedback, but that leads to a bunch of questions about how we expose
> that to developers without exposing it to spambots.

Right.
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