Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:03:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:03:24 -0400 Received: from ns.suse.de ([213.95.15.193]:10770 "EHLO Cantor.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:03:21 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Andreas Gruenbacher Organization: SuSE Linux AG To: "Theodore Ts'o" , Christoph Hellwig , torvalds@transmeta.com, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Add POSIX Access Control Lists to ext2/3 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:09:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <20021016141103.A8393@infradead.org> <20021016155012.GA8210@think.thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20021016155012.GA8210@think.thunk.org> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <200210161809.17015.agruen@suse.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1682 Lines: 31 On Wednesday 16 October 2002 17:50, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 02:11:04PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > Ted, please either go _always_ through the {get,set}_posix_acl methods > > or never. Currently XFS doesn't know and doesn't want to know > > about the so called "egenric ACL representation" used by ext2/ext3. With > > theses methods we'd have to add it to XFS which is fine for me as long as > > it the representation generally used for working with ACLs. That would > > mean we'd have to add new syscall or at least VFS-level hooks to the > > xattr code. > > Fine. I'll just yank the {get,set}_posix_acl methods for now. The > inode methods were only needed for the NFS code (see Andreas' comments > about the xattr interfaces being problematical for VFS support). > > However, the reality is that at this point, we probably won't have > time to get support in for the NFS server ACL before feature freeze, > and changing the interface to ACL's (never mind the headaches of > trying to agree to a new syscall interface at this late date), given > the deployed userspace tools, just doesn't seem to be realistic. The pain of not having the NFS ACL hack is only moderate; it only affects interoperability of older systems with a feature that wasn't there before, and even then the effects aren't dramatic. We could live without it for a while, but I'll see if I code that up in time too. --Andreas. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/