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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:28:16 +0200
From: boris brezillon <b.brezillon@overkiz.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] pinctrl: add new generic pinconf config for deglitch
 filter
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On 27/08/2013 09:42, Nicolas Ferre wrote:
> On 27/08/2013 08:16, boris brezillon :
>> On 27/08/2013 05:55, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>> On 08/26/2013 11:01 AM, boris brezillon wrote:
>>>> Hello Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> On 26/08/2013 18:50, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>> On 08/24/2013 03:35 PM, Boris BREZILLON wrote:
>>>>>> Add a new parameter to support deglitch filter configuration.
>>>>>> A deglitch filter works like a debounce filter but with a smaller
>>>>>> delay (nanoseconds).
>>>>> Why not use the existing debounce property, just with a small delay
>>>>> specified. It seems like that's exactly what the property is for?
>>>> That's one of the question I asked in my cover letter :-)
>>>>
>>>> Indeed the at91 deglitch filter delay is not configurable and is 
>>>> statically
>>>> assigned to half a master clk cycle (if master clk = 133MHz -> 8 ns).
>>>> The debounce property argument is currently expressed in usecs.
>>>>
>>>> This will result in always selecting the debounce filter (which is 
>>>> also
>>>> available on at91 SoCs) over the deglitch filter.
>>>>
>>>> Could we add a flag in the deglitch argument to specify the delay unit
>>>> (nsecs or usecs) ?
>>> If the value is hard-coded in HW, why not use non-zero (or 1) to enable
>>> and zero to disable?
>>
>> Indeed at91 pins support both deglitch and debounce filter and I have to
>> choose
>> between the two given the argument value (in usec).
>>
>> Here's what I can do:
>>
>> if (arg >= 1/2 * slowclock)    /* debounce case */
>>       /* choose debounce filter and configure the delay
>>           according to the given argument value */
>> else                                          /* deglitch case */
>>       /* choose deglitch filter */
>>
>>
>> Slow clock is running at 32KHz which gives a 30 usec clock cycle.
>
> I am not in favor for this kind of complicated heuristic. Deglitch and 
> Debounce filters are different features in at91 (even if they pursuit 
> the same goal). So I do prefer to let the user choose which feature is 
> preferred for his application and add a different flag.
>
>
>>> (this kind of thing is why I'm not convinced that generic pinconf works
>>> so well... What if we need psecs in the future?)
>>
>> Should I keep the at91 native pinconf binding and add the missing flags
>> to this binding
>> (OUTPUT configuration flags) ?
>>
>> This was another question I asked in my cover letter: wether or not the
>> generic pinconf
>> binding should be used.
>
> The question is: how much this "generic" pinconf is... well... 
> generic! And it is not a answer I can give.
> On the other hand, if the "generic" is not going to overcome the 
> native pinctrl, I do not feel like switching to this at the cost of 
> changing the whole dtsi/dts entries that we already have.
>
> So, it is more to Linus and Stephen to give us clues about this...

Okay.

I'll propose a new patch series adding native support for OUTPUT 
configuration of at91 pins (add OUTPUT_HIGH/LOW),
and put this series in stand-by until a clear decision is made about 
generic pinconf.

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Boris
>
> Bye,
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