Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:08:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:08:02 -0500 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:52787 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:07:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:04:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chaitanya Tumuluri To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" cc: bsuparna@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kiobuf-io-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait /notify + callback chains In-Reply-To: <20010201174120.A11607@redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 06:05:15PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 04:16:15PM +0000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > > > > > > > > No, and with the current kiobufs it would not make sense, because they > > > > are to heavy-weight. > > > > > > Really? In what way? > > > > We can't allocate a huge kiobuf structure just for requesting one page of > > IO. It might get better with VM-level IO clustering though. > > A kiobuf is *much* smaller than, say, a buffer_head, and we currently > allocate a buffer_head per block for all IO. > > A kiobuf contains enough embedded page vector space for 16 pages by > default, but I'm happy enough to remove that if people want. However, > note that that memory is not initialised, so there is no memory access > cost at all for that empty space. Remove that space and instead of > one memory allocation per kiobuf, you get two, so the cost goes *UP* > for small IOs. > > > > > With page,length,offsett iobufs this makes sense > > > > and is IMHO the way to go. > > > > > > What, you mean adding *extra* stuff to the heavyweight kiobuf makes it > > > lean enough to do the job?? > > > > No. I was speaking abou the light-weight kiobuf Linux & Me discussed on > > lkml some time ago (though I'd much more like to call it kiovec analogous > > to BSD iovecs). > > What is so heavyweight in the current kiobuf (other than the embedded > vector, which I've already noted I'm willing to cut)? Hi, It'd seem that "array_len", "locked", "bounced", "io_count" and "errno" are the fields that need to go away (apart from the "maplist"). The field "nr_pages" would reincarnate in the kiovec struct (which is is not a plain array anymore) as the field "nbufs". See below. Based on what I've seen fly by on the lists here's my understanding of the proposed new kiobuf/kiovec structures: =========================================================================== /* * a simple page,offset,length tuple like Linus wants it */ struct kiobuf { struct page * page; /* The page itself */ u_16 offset; /* Offset to start of valid data */ u_16 length; /* Number of valid bytes of data */ }; struct kiovec { int nbufs; /* Kiobufs actually referenced */ struct kiobuf * bufs; } /* * the name is just plain stupid, but that shouldn't matter */ struct vfs_kiovec { struct kiovec * iov; /* private data, mostly for the callback */ void * private; /* completion callback */ void (*end_io) (struct vfs_kiovec *); wait_queue_head_t wait_queue; }; =========================================================================== Is this correct? If so, I have a few questions/clarifications: - The [ll_rw_blk, scsi/ide request-functions, scsi/ide I/O completion handling] functions would be handed the "X_kiovec" struct, correct? - So, the soft-RAID / LVM layers need to construct their own "lvm_kiovec" structs to handle request splits and the partial completions, correct? - Then, what are the semantics of request-merges containing the "X_kiovec" structs in the block I/O queueing layers? Do we add "X_kiovec->next", "X_kiovec->prev" etc. fields? It will also require a re-allocation of a new and longer kiovec->bufs array, correct? - How are I/O error codes to be propagated back to the higher (calling) layers? I think that needs to be added into the "X_kiovec" struct, no? - How is bouncing to be handled with this setup? (some state is needed to (a) determine that bouncing occurred, (b) find out which pages have been bounced and, (c) find out the bounce-page for each of these bounced pages). Cheers, -Chait. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/