Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756519Ab3IFQod (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:44:33 -0400 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122]:32059 "EHLO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753895Ab3IFQoc (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:44:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ddwCLAre c=1 sm=0 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:17 a=Drc5e87SC40A:10 a=BbXNHQx3NekA:10 a=5SG0PmZfjMsA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=meVymXHHAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=fxhqf5xVK60A:10 a=vTr9H3xdAAAA:8 a=t98SeGsm3doavwbB9lwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=DGUv9C6miAAA:10 a=jeBq3FmKZ4MA:10 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 67.255.60.225 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:44:29 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Josh Boyer Cc: Dave Jones , Kyle McMartin , Linux Kernel , "John 'Warthog9' Hawley" Subject: Re: ftrace 'failed to modify' bug when loading reiserfs.ko Message-ID: <20130906124429.2376b80c@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <20130905212834.605408a4@gandalf.local.home> <20130906013455.GA10073@redhat.com> <20130905214455.101c6347@gandalf.local.home> <20130906014859.GB10073@redhat.com> <20130905215154.74c55e9a@gandalf.local.home> <20130906035827.GA13446@redhat.com> <20130906093252.02c748f5@gandalf.local.home> <20130906141852.GA18708@redhat.com> <20130906102413.2e52d337@gandalf.local.home> <20130906144113.GC25882@merlin.infradead.org> <20130906152221.GA29715@redhat.com> <20130906113439.5e2692bd@gandalf.local.home> <20130906120736.6ef58106@gandalf.local.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1655 Lines: 45 On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:12:48 -0400 Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:46:13 -0400 > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > > >> > Fedora should really look into defaulting to syslinux. > >> > >> Doesn't support all the usecases we have, and it's not multi-arch. > >> Grub2 has warts, but it's all around more flexible. > > > > We should be working on making syslinux work for all cases then. > > Is there something stopping you? :) Yes, it's called a day job that takes up most my time ;-) I'd love to work more on it. I just don't have the time to do so. > > > Grub2 has more than warts, it's a total disaster. I have not found a > > single user that likes grub2 (outside of the grub2 developers > > themselves). > > > > The "oneshot" booting is totally broken, I could never get it to work > > consistently, thus I had to abandon it for ktest. Grub2 may be > > flexible, but it is overly complicated. It's horrible to do anything > > but the "default" settings. > > We have essentially one person working on bootloaders and that person > has to support them in RHEL too. I'm sure they'd appreciate help. I'd love to. But there's a bunch of other things I need to do first before I ever get a chance to work on that. I wonder how much time John Hawley has? -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/