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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 16:02:28 -0400
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Subject: Re: oops.kernel.org, reporting.  [Was: [ATTEND] oops.kernel.org prospect]
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On 08/22/2013 06:35 AM, Anton Arapov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for contacting me. I will cross-post this to LKML, as there
> is an information that might be interested for other folks.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:31:21PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>> We, the Gentoo Kernel Project Team at Gentoo Linux, might be interested
>> to contribute oopses to oops.kernel.org; but from a first look over what
>> can be found on the ML and the internet about that site, there seems to
>> be no information available about submitting to oops.kernel.org.
> This kind of information will be there soon.
>
>
>> So, could you please highlight the details on how submission happens?
>> Does this (have to) happen automatically? Can we do manual submissions?
> oops.kernel.org uses the old legacy kerneloops.org's api for data
> collecting. Both, http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php (old) and
> http://oops.kernel.org/submitoops.php (new, stick to this one) works today.

The Ubuntu distro is still configured to submit oops to
http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php using the kerneloops package
developed by Arjan.  However, it has been disabled since the original
kerneloops.org site went down.  We can re-enable oops submissions.  Will
the old submit URL still work, or are you migrating to the new
http://oops.kernel.org/submitoops.php URL?

>
> Reporting doesn't happen automatically. Two tools available for
> sending reports: abrt/libreport (1) and former kerneloops daemon (2).
> Either of these can send reports automatically or manually.
>
>
> (1) https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/ - iirc, is already packaged in gentoo.
> (2) There are no link to kerneloops, this is what I was able to google:
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kerneloops/kerneloops_0.12+git20090217.orig.tar.gz
> Abrt has a better scanner/reporter, which produce less false-positive reports.
>
>
> I don't know what way Gentoo will choose, but the original kerneloops
> daemon requires some love to make it run under systemd and improve the
> oops scanner (can be ported from abrt).
>
>
> The source of _scanner_ abrt/dumpoops_plugin:
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/abrt.git/tree/src/plugins/abrt-dump-oops.c
> The source of _reporter_ abrt/libreport/kerneloops_plugin:
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/libreport.git/tree/src/plugins/reporter-kerneloops.c
>
> libreport allows to report manually using CLI:
>  $ reporter-kerneloops 
>  Usage: reporter-kerneloops [-v] [-c CONFFILE]... -d DIR
>
>
>> I think that something that "calls home" might become a concern; maybe
>> we could still provide that as opt-in, but manual submits would be neat.
> Few years of experience with Abrt/Bugzilla reports, people fill the
> additional information in less than 2% of all reports. And, the Abrt
> team is working towards the least possible interaction with the user.
> This is mostly to address privacy concerns, as well as leaving the
> possibility to provide additional data.
>
>
>> Thank you in advance for your explanation.
> You are welcome, let me know if you'll need any help further.
>
> Anton.
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