Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754714Ab3IIRYX (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:24:23 -0400 Received: from mail-bn1lp0157.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([207.46.163.157]:56280 "EHLO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753372Ab3IIRYV (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:24:21 -0400 From: Matthew Garrett To: "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" CC: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "keescook@chromium.org" , "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" , "hpa@zytor.com" , "linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" , "jmorris@namei.org" , "linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown Thread-Topic: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown Thread-Index: AQHOrYDL2QYLBLFVskGOdCrAsfX2cpm9p86A Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:24:16 +0000 Message-ID: <1378747455.17982.9.camel@x230.lan> References: <1378741786-18430-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com> <19562.1378747124@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <19562.1378747124@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [2001:470:1f07:1371:5d52:9ee3:3e84:6668] x-forefront-prvs: 09645BAC66 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(377424004)(24454002)(199002)(189002)(51856001)(59766001)(56776001)(19580405001)(54316002)(83322001)(80022001)(65816001)(81342001)(76796001)(36756003)(49866001)(4396001)(47736001)(81542001)(47976001)(76786001)(50986001)(79102001)(46102001)(74366001)(77982001)(69226001)(33646001)(81686001)(81816001)(19580395003)(63696002)(56816003)(77096001)(83072001)(74876001)(80976001)(54356001)(74502001)(53806001)(47446002)(74662001)(31966008)(76482001)(74706001)(3826001);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR05MB221;H:BY2PR05MB222.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;CLIP:2001:470:1f07:1371:5d52:9ee3:3e84:6668;RD:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <83F8CDDAF8C01943842B217E2D87E853@namprd05.prod.outlook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nebula.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by mail.home.local id r89HOR1w021744 Content-Length: 709 Lines: 14 On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 13:18 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > You may as well bite the bullet on this one, and tie it together. Without > Secure Boot, by the time your code runs it's already too late. That's the > whole point of Secure Boot, after all. It's already been made clear that nobody's interested in merging a solution that's specific to Secure Boot. I can add a command line option to set a default, and then anyone using an attesting bootloader (TPM/TXT) can verify the state. -- Matthew Garrett ????{.n?+???????+%?????ݶ??w??{.n?+????{??G?????{ay?ʇڙ?,j??f???h?????????z_??(?階?ݢj"???m??????G????????????&???~???iO???z??v?^?m???? ????????I?